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  Conversation with old friend

  by LongHairGal in

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  i recently had a conversation with an old acquaintance from the congregation i used to attend.

  we talked about the recent changes in the 2023 annual meeting.

  i especially pointed out the one about getting rid of hourly reporting on monthly time slips.

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  We talked about the recent changes in the 2023 annual meeting. I especially pointed out the one about getting rid of hourly reporting on monthly time slips. I mentioned that this was a century old teaching - and that many JWs are poor today because of not getting careers and instead spending years in the ministry.

  My uncle ( who was an elder for over 50 years) passed away 10 tens ago at the age of 88. He was baptized in1957 at the age of 31. He convinced his 2 sisters ( one of them was my mom ) that Jehovah's Witnesses had the ''truth''. Our family had over 20 baptized members.
  

  His whole life was dedicated to the Jehovah's Witnesses. He only took jobs that had weekends off, day hours and took unpaid vacations in the summers so he could attend assemblies. Never went on any vacations. Just to Canada and New York for speaking parts at the assemblies. Worked as a custodian most of his life. He was just happy to pay his bills. Drove old cars and never went out to restaurants.

  He retired at 65 so he could become a full time Pioneer. Spending over 60 hours a month in ''field service'', non-stop elder meetings, congregation meetings and prep work, and spent loads of money on gas. And what did he get in return for his hard work and dedication to the Watchtower Society...NEVER GOT HIS PROMISE TO THE NEW SYSTEM AND A SLAP IN THE FACE FROM THE WATCHTOWER SOCIETY WHEN THEY DECIDED TO GET RID OF MONTHLY REPORTS!
  
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  The Jehovah's Witness religion has ''Jumped the Shark''

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what does jump the shark mean?.

  the phrase “jump the shark” is a term in pop culture that originated from the tv show “happy days” and is used to describe a decline in quality.

  it refers to the moment when a tv show or other product has reached its peak and starts to decline in quality.

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  What Does Jump The Shark Mean?

  The phrase “jump the shark” is a term in pop culture that originated from the TV show “Happy Days” and is used to describe a decline in quality. It refers to the moment when a TV show or other product has reached its peak and starts to decline in quality. The term comes from an episode of “Happy Days” in which the character Fonzie jumps over a shark while water skiing, which was seen as an absurd and desperate attempt to keep the show interesting. Critics adopted the phrase, and it has since been used to describe TV shows that have ridiculous plot twists and story lines. The term has also been used more broadly to describe any product or trend that has reached its peak and is starting to decline.

  

  I haven't attended a Kingdom Hall, Convention, Assembly meeting in 10 years. The changes from the Watchtower Society has led me to believe that the religion has ''jumped the shark.'' It has become a desperate attempt to pander their product and avoid Watchtower scandals. Here are some ''jumping the shark'' trends that show the Watchtower Society's decline:

  

  Caleb and Sophia...Cartoon characters
  

  

  Cart Witnessing Field Service

  

  JW Broadcasting

  The Discontinuation of Field Service Reports
  

  
  
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  Jehovah changes directions in ''field service hours'' resonsibilty and assignments

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  https://jws-library.one/?file=data/1943/w_e_19430701/w_e_19430701.html#bookmark2.

  https://jws-library.one/?list=publications&pubid=w_e_19430701&year=1943.

  these expressions of god’s will by his king and through his established agency constitute his law or rule of action for the “faithful and wise servant” and for their goodwill companions today who will dwell upon the earth for ever in the new world.

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  I first came across this in the Winter of 74/75 in the Watchtower Farms library one evening while I was doing research/personal study. Needless to say this led to many, many sleepless nights for me and started me on the path to my first 'nervous breakdown'.

  Can you elaborate?

  I cannot believe how many ''field service hours'' were required in 1943. Also, telling everyone these hours were established directly from Jehovah to the ''faithful and wise servant'' and to ''shut up'' about the insane amount of hours.
  
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  Jehovah changes directions in ''field service hours'' resonsibilty and assignments

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  https://jws-library.one/?file=data/1943/w_e_19430701/w_e_19430701.html#bookmark2.

  https://jws-library.one/?list=publications&pubid=w_e_19430701&year=1943.

  these expressions of god’s will by his king and through his established agency constitute his law or rule of action for the “faithful and wise servant” and for their goodwill companions today who will dwell upon the earth for ever in the new world.

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  https://jws-library.one/?file=data/1943/w_E_19430701/w_E_19430701.html#bookmark2

  https://jws-library.one/?list=publications&pubId=w_E_19430701&year=1943
  

  These expressions of God’s will by his King and through his established agency constitute his law or rule of action for the “faithful and wise servant” and for their goodwill companions today who will dwell upon the earth for ever in the New World. The Lord breaks down our organization instructions further and makes them more practicable by further instructing us through his “faithful and wise servant”. He says, ‘Let us assign the field, the world, to special pioneers, regular pioneers and companies of Jehovah’s witnesses in an orderly way, sufficient for everyone to thoroughly witness therein, and let us place upon each one the responsibility of caring for the New World interests in these respective assignments.’ He says the requirements for special pioneers shall be 175 hours and 50 back-calls per month, which should develop into a reasonable number of studies; and for regular pioneers 150 hours and as many back-calls and studies as can be properly developed during that time. And for company publishers he says, ‘Let us make a quota of 60 hours and 12 back-calls and at least one study a week for each publisher.’ These directions come to us from the Lord through his established agency directing what is required of us; and, for those who really love the Lord and are guided by his counsel, that is a reasonable service requirement. This expression of the Lord’s will should be the end of all controversy. It is for your good that these requirements are made; for thereby you are enabled to prove your integrity and magnify the Lord’s name.

  
  

  Samuel Herd at the 2023 Annual Meeting of Jehovah's Witnesses states : '' 2023 congregation Publishers will no longer report the amount of time they spend in the ministry''....

  
  

  In the July 01, 1943 Watchtower, Jehovah establishes, instructs, and directs the ''faithful and discreet slave'' to establish and direct ''field service hours'' for special pioneers, regular pioneers and companies. ''This expression of the Lord's will should be the end of all controversy.''

  In 2023,( supposedly) Jehovah changes his mind about the reporting of time spent in the ministry. No more hours, return visits and placements. Jehovah does a complete turnaround.

  Can the change really come from the Watchtower Society facing lawsuits and Governments refusing to give them free money for the treatment of their rank and file?

  The Watchtower Society are a bunch of ''weasels.''
  

  
  

  
  
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  Governing Body's failed doctrines blamed on Jehovah's gradual revealment

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nh9w8zmgli0.

  ( starts at the 21:00 minute mark ) governing body member jeffrey winder reveals the real reason for the failed doctrines throughout the watchtower's 150 year history.

  he claims that the governing body are neither inspired or infallible.. the governing body do not need to apologize for getting doctrines wrong.. the governing body ''do their best with what they have and what they understand at the time.''.

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  If I read these scriptures correctly, the Holy Spirit is there forever. The Holy Spirit is always true and it remains with you and in you.
  

  John 14:16

  And I will ask the Father and he will give you another helper to be with you forever,

  John 14:17

  the spirit of the truth, which the world cannot receive, because it neither sees it nor knows it. You know it, because it remains with you and is in you.

  Governing Body Member Jeffrey Winder explains how Jehovah reveals understanding of the scriptures ''new light'' in modern times. Does he quote these scriptures? Nope! He tries to weasel the Governing Body away from all the failed doctrines and blames God with gradual flip-flops and only gradual understanding.

  '' So, this is what we know from the scriptures and from our own experiences as well, about how the light gets brighter in modern times. It comes about by means of the Holy Spirit, through his channel of the Faithful and Discreet slave. He reveals it gradually and at a time it is needed.''
  

  
  
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  Governing Body's failed doctrines blamed on Jehovah's gradual revealment

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nh9w8zmgli0.

  ( starts at the 21:00 minute mark ) governing body member jeffrey winder reveals the real reason for the failed doctrines throughout the watchtower's 150 year history.

  he claims that the governing body are neither inspired or infallible.. the governing body do not need to apologize for getting doctrines wrong.. the governing body ''do their best with what they have and what they understand at the time.''.

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  The are literally blaming God for the failed information they dreamed up. They publish what God reveals to them. I should hope that the JW who hear this will not get caught up in the wordiness of it and miss the point that they are really calling God a liar. ( in other words, if they got it wrong,it's because God didn't reveal it correctly to start with.)

  EXACTLY! Notice in this article how they use the word ''clarification'' instead of failed information, false revelations and made up information.
  

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  • The Light Keeps Getting Brighter

  The Light Keeps Getting Brighter

  BECAUSE true worshippers acknowledge Jehovah as the Source of spiritual light, they eagerly pray that God’s ‘light and truth’ will lead and guide them. (Ps. 43:3) While the world is in dense spiritual darkness, the true God continues to shed light upon his people. As a result, their path “is like the bright morning light that grows brighter and brighter.” (Prov. 4:18) Increasing light from Jehovah continues to illuminate their way organizationally, doctrinally, and morally. What are some of our beliefs that have been clarified in recent years?
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  Governing Body's failed doctrines blamed on Jehovah's gradual revealment

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nh9w8zmgli0.

  ( starts at the 21:00 minute mark ) governing body member jeffrey winder reveals the real reason for the failed doctrines throughout the watchtower's 150 year history.

  he claims that the governing body are neither inspired or infallible.. the governing body do not need to apologize for getting doctrines wrong.. the governing body ''do their best with what they have and what they understand at the time.''.

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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nh9w8zMgLI0

  

  ( starts at the 21:00 minute mark ) Governing Body member Jeffrey Winder reveals the real reason for the failed doctrines throughout the Watchtower's 150 year history.

  He claims that the Governing Body are neither inspired or infallible.

  The Governing Body do not need to apologize for getting doctrines wrong.

  The Governing Body ''DO THEIR BEST WITH WHAT THEY HAVE AND WHAT THEY UNDERSTAND AT THE TIME.''

  So, what excuse do the Governing Body use for getting doctrinal matters wrong?

  Blame it on Jehovah! Jehovah reveals all matters gradually, and when it is needed.

  Sorry Mr. Winder and rest of the lying Governing Body members throughout your failed history: The truth never adjusts, only lies adjust.
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  Is there “new light” on 1914?

  by wallsofjericho in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i’m hearing paraphrasing like “we just don’t know” .

  is this regarding 1914?

  or micheal the arch angel?.

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  Interesting how Samuel Herd mocks and minimizes Anthony Morris' military service saying that Tony was a not a Green Beret.

  Where does Sam say that about about Tony?

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXP0zRM2lLQ
  
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  Is there “new light” on 1914?

  by wallsofjericho in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i’m hearing paraphrasing like “we just don’t know” .

  is this regarding 1914?

  or micheal the arch angel?.

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  The Governing Body are notorious for reversing previous doctrines with no discussion. Where are the scriptures on the reversal of ''field service hours''? Where are the scriptures on the reversal of ''beards''?

  These new ''Governing Body Clowns'' know that they can flip/flop and the rank and file will eat it up. More proof that they are making things up as they go along. There's no divine guidance of any kind among them... just stupid, mislead followers.
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  Are You Ready for the Most Important Day of the Year?

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  luke 22:14 so when the hour came, he reclined at the table along with the apostles.

  and he said to them: “i have greatly desired to eat this passover with you before i suffer; 16 for i tell you, i will not eat it again until it is fulfilled in the kingdom of god.” 17 and accepting a cup, he gave thanks and said: “take this and pass it from one to the other among yourselves, 18 for i tell you, from now on, i will not drink again from the product of the vine until the kingdom of god comes.”.

  19 also, he took a loaf, gave thanks, broke it, and gave it to them, saying: “this means my body, which is to be given in your behalf.

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  enoughisenough : ( not about a ruling heavenly class )

  Matthew 27 Then he took a cup, and when he had given thanks, he gave it to them, saying, “Drink from it, all of you. 28 This is my blood of the[b] covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins. 29 I tell you, I will not drink from this fruit of the vine from now on until that day when I drink it new with you in my Father’s kingdom.”